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CARS aka Car Allowance Rebate System aka CASH FOR CLUNKERS!
« on: August 25, 2009, 09:45:52 AM »
Well its been going on for awhile now. Seems they are claiming that the program will run out of money on Monday. Yet from all that I have seen a lot of dealers are complaining that they have not received the money from the government. Apparently the government wants these vehicles destroyed prior to any funds being dispersed.

What is really ODD about this whole thing is the fact that they require the destruction of the engine with a somewhat crude process. Pouring what equates to water mixed with silica sand into an empty crank-case and revving the engine until such time as the engine seizes. Strange enough that getting a clear answer with regards to just how the cars are to be "Scrapped" leaves me to thinking that when the program ends a lot of problems could arise.

List of problems that could arise-

Government fails to pay out (For whatever reason)
People in the newer cars could be looking are re-paying the $3500-$4500
Cars destroyed that did not qualify. (Well youre screwed now cuz its crushed)
Cars not being crushed, rather they are "Parted" out.
Some cars being rebuilt or having used engines installed.

Now for whatever reason, wouldnt it be something for a person whom went to the dealer to trade in their old vehicle under the CARS program, only to find out later that their vehicle did not qualify, as such making them liable for an additional $4500 in cost. To some this could put them over the edge, causing them to loose the new vehicle, and have lost their old paid off vehicle. I bet we will be surprised by some of the stories that are sure to come out.

To me the idea of destroying a good running vehicle, rather than donating it to someone without a vehicle, is a real waste! The amount of pollution that comes from making that vehicle is all in vane. It is not by ANY standard a reasonable solution. Furthermore, its questionable just what the CARS program calls for regarding the disposal of the vehicle. It has been documented that a water/silica solution is added to an empty crank case and the engine revved until such time as it seizes. Also the title must be written on in large letters "Cash for clunkers". I have seen some reports that they were spray painting "CARS" on the side of the vehicles also. Yet the real question is this, DO THEY HAVE TO BE CUSHED? It seems that there is a clause in there that allows the junk yard to sell off the parts. If this is the case, and the cars are not required to be CRUSHED who decides where all of these government paid for clunkers will go? Once they get to where they are going, how much are the yards paying for them?

This whole entire thing is just a big effing JOKE. Seems that American based companies only had TWO cars on the top 10 that sold, with Honda and Toyota having the other 8. Sure some of them 8 Asian cars are made here in the USA, but all the profit goes back to Asia.

I personally think the program should have been scrapped itself. Who ever thought up this JOKE should be forced to run for 20 miles and drink the same solution that is put inside the motors of these poor cars.


Here is another one for you,

Try to divide $3,000,000,000.00 into $4500.

It equals 666,666.666 units. Check it for yourself.

This will give you the least amount of vehicles units this program will have helped to sell, however the number is a little scarry.


Keep in mind that the government CAN and WILL deny any clunker claims that do not fit the bill.

(1) The vehicle has to have been OWNED, PLATED and INSURED for the past year.
(2) It has to get less than 18 MPG when sold NEW, not what it gets after 150K
(3) All paperwork must be properly filled out to the T with PROOF.
(4) The vehicles engine must have a special glass solution run thru it.
(5) Vehicle and title MUST be marked as a "CARS KLUNKER".

Any of the 5 are not done and the dealer isnt getting its money. There is also word that many dealers made customers sign contracts that state they will be on the hook for the CARS klunker money in the event the government refuse to pay.

Now think about the salesmen at these new car companies whom have been starving for the last year. It is bound to happen where a person fails to get the credit, their paid off car is crushed and the new one is taken back.

What a program! I think you guys are fucked.

What do you think? Here are some links to some videos about the CARS programs. Enjoy them and feel free to add your own. I know YouTube has some pretty good ones as well.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/32342718#32342718

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/32497495#32497495

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/32497495#32479367
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